[sophocles]

 Brookie, on 26 June 2024 - 07:08 AM, said:

The manner in how we qualified does not generate confidence for the knockout phase

I'll wait until the next game has actually taken place before judging the manager and players. They've achieved precisely what they needed to achieve so far; the time to start an inquest is when they actually fail to get any further in the competition.

[Bonnyman]

Absolutely honkin again but Southgate is lucky, the question is for how long

[Middle East]

Bonnyman, on 30 June 2024 - 07:51 PM, said:

Absolutely honkin again but Southgate is lucky, the question is for how long

If we play like that again I would say 6 days time...

[h again]

sophocles, on 27 June 2024 - 11:48 AM, said:

I'll wait until the next game has actually taken place before judging the manager and players. They've achieved precisely what they needed to achieve so far; the time to start an inquest is when they actually fail to get any further in the competition.

Are the players of Spain, and for that matter Georgia, any better individually than ours? They aren't, so how come they can play, fast,attacking football that's an absolute pleasure to watch? We all know the answer to that one, and Southgate can win everything in sight for me, but he still can't even begin to produce teams capable of the Spanish level of entertainment because it just isn't the way his mind works. He looks terrified all the time, never smiles,and his negative mind-set communicates itself to the players.

[Bonnyman]

 h again, on 30 June 2024 - 08:33 PM, said:

Are the players of Spain, and for that matter Georgia, any better individually than ours? They aren't, so how come they can play, fast,attacking football that's an absolute pleasure to watch? We all know the answer to that one, and Southgate can win everything in sight for me, but he still can't even begin to produce teams capable of the Spanish level of entertainment because it just isn't the way his mind works. He looks terrified all the time, never smiles,and his negative mind-set communicates itself to the players.

They look like they are on steroids compared to ours

[Mr Mercury]

sophocles, on 27 June 2024 - 11:48 AM, said:

I'll wait until the next game has actually taken place before judging the manager and players. They've achieved precisely what they needed to achieve so far; the time to start an inquest is when they actually fail to get any further in the competition.

No the inquest needs to be starting now, actually even earlier because we have been beyond awful, our performances have been a total shambles and it’s only by the luck of the draw that we’ve progressed, and it needs to be sorted out asap. Talk about sweeping th e problem under the carpet.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: Yesterday, 08:40 PM

[Osborne again]

 Bonnyman, on 30 June 2024 - 08:35 PM, said:

They look like they are on steroids compared to ours

Ours play like they have haemorrhoids.

[hilly81]

Bonnyman, on 30 June 2024 - 08:35 PM, said:

They look like they are on steroids compared to ours

They look well coached. Highly motivated and have the freedom to express themselves. Try things without being afraid of making mistakes. They are the polar opposite of England. Yamal is a phenomenon.

[clarevoyant.]

Osborne again, on 30 June 2024 - 08:39 PM, said:

Ours play like they have haemorrhoids.

Did you have to Google the spelling or did you refer to the medicinal cream?

[sophocles]

 h again, on 30 June 2024 - 08:33 PM, said:

Are the players of Spain, and for that matter Georgia, any better individually than ours? They aren't, so how come they can play, fast,attacking football that's an absolute pleasure to watch? We all know the answer to that one, and Southgate can win everything in sight for me, but he still can't even begin to produce teams capable of the Spanish level of entertainment because it just isn't the way his mind works. He looks terrified all the time, never smiles,and his negative mind-set communicates itself to the players.

Maybe Southgate thinks his job is to WIN first and entertain second.

[60s 70s Spireite]

sophocles, on 30 June 2024 - 08:57 PM, said:

Maybe Southgate thinks his job is to WIN first and entertain second.

Hopefully then, we will see more long throw ins and engineering of set pieces. Cos the possession football we are attempting is creating zero.

[satnav]

Whilst we have stumbled into the next round we have been forced to play are best players for every minute of every game. We came into the tournament with lots of knackered players and many of those players will now be even more knackered.
Foden was absolutely woeful tonight with the set pieces. He had at least 7 corners and 4 free kicks and only one of them created a genuine chance. We really can't be that wasteful when it comes to set pieces.

[sophocles]

 60s 70s Spireite, on 30 June 2024 - 09:03 PM, said:

Hopefully then, we will see more long throw ins and engineering of set pieces. Cos the possession football we are attempting is creating zero.

Only if you count getting to the quarter finals as 'zero'. In knockout competitions all that matters is the final result, not how well you play. I seem to remember us outplaying Notts County at Wembley and losing the game.

[60s 70s Spireite]

sophocles, on 30 June 2024 - 09:24 PM, said:

Only if you count getting to the quarter finals as 'zero'. In knockout competitions all that matters is the final result, not how well you play. I seem to remember us outplaying Notts County at Wembley and losing the game.

I?m talking about the chances we created to score and win the game. Zero from creative football and two from NL level game plan.

[h again]

sophocles, on 30 June 2024 - 08:57 PM, said:

Maybe Southgate thinks his job is to WIN first and entertain second.

His problem is that he thinks the two are mutually exclusive. They aren't.

[sophocles]

 h again, on 30 June 2024 - 09:43 PM, said:

His problem is that he thinks the two are mutually exclusive. They aren't.

Of course they aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, but if your aim is to win a competition rather than a beauty contest, results are more important than style of play. Perhaps you'd prefer points to be awarded, as in ice dancing, for artistic impression. Personally, I'll go along with the idea that the team that sticks the ball in the opposition net most often is the winner.

[Holmesc1]

Dire game bar the last ten mins of normal time and extra time but hey a wins a win. Roll on saturday

[Osborne again]

 clarevoyant., on 30 June 2024 - 08:46 PM, said:

Did you have to Google the spelling or did you refer to the medicinal cream?

Medical cream mate, I am 67 years old and take codeine like smarties 😂😂😂.

[Osborne again]

If we carry on in the same manner, we'll get turned over for sure. The Charles Charlie Charles idea of strolling around the park and passing between the back four is a surefire way of bringing on a disaster.

[Brookie]

Switzerland are a team with a system of play that suits their players, we are the opposite