[Mr Mercury]

joe, on 03 July 2024 - 06:20 PM, said:

I'm not enamoured by Kier but he seems solid and intelligent and has merit. Unfortunately the tories have run out of anyone with any merit at all. Kier rose through his profession and became an important man on merit. Rishi got a job in hedge fund management where he has never had to deal with ordinary people and doesn't it show

I don?t doubt he?s intelligent but I don?t think he has merit, I think he?s a u turn expert and comes into power with little merit, just my opinion, and I don?t think he seems solid, at times in the debates with Sunak he looked genuinely scared, the closer he gets to power the more he has the look of a rabbit caught in the headlights.
Time will tell.

[isleaiw1]

Mr Mercury, on 03 July 2024 - 07:03 PM, said:

I don?t doubt he?s intelligent but I don?t think he has merit, I think he?s a u turn expert and comes into power with little merit, just my opinion, and I don?t think he seems solid, at times in the debates with Sunak he looked genuinely scared, the closer he gets to power the more he has the look of a rabbit caught in the headlights.
Time will tell.

Apparently Mrs Kier, who keeps out of the headlines, is a bit sassy, also went to a private school.... Apparently when she first spoke to him she said "who the f*** does he think he is"

I think I quite like her

[fishini]

 Mr Mercury, on 03 July 2024 - 07:03 PM, said:

I don?t doubt he?s intelligent but I don?t think he has merit, I think he?s a u turn expert and comes into power with little merit, just my opinion, and I don?t think he seems solid, at times in the debates with Sunak he looked genuinely scared, the closer he gets to power the more he has the look of a rabbit caught in the headlights.
Time will tell.

Unlike Johnston who lied his way to power

[s42blue]

 joe, on 03 July 2024 - 06:28 PM, said:

50 miles seem pretty close compared to that tory who moved from Gateshead to Basildon, Rishi up to Yorkshire, not to mention Farage who openly admitted he wasn't looking forward to spending his Fridays in Clacton. Clutching at straws I think

Me clutching at straws? That?d be the case if I?d endorsed any of the above. I was staring a fact I didn?t know about the Labour candidate who to date I haven?t met. So 🤫

[isleaiw1]

fishini, on 03 July 2024 - 07:15 PM, said:

Unlike Johnston who lied his way to power

Just a question,if it transpires that Labour havent told the truth and the whole truth in their manifesto (and silence is deemed as lying to me if you keep quiet on something important and refuse to answer questions on the subject) will you say the same about Labour?

Or is lying for one side and finding things different to expected ok for the others?

[s42blue]

 isleaiw1, on 03 July 2024 - 06:11 PM, said:

Think we might have seen a snippet of a policy leaked - no wonder they are keeping quiet....

A Labour frontbencher has expressed frustration at the ?out-of-date? council tax system and hinted that a tax raid may be coming.

In a leaked recording, Darren Jones, the shadow chief secretary to the Treasury, admitted that Labour cannot openly talk about revaluing homes for council tax because no party that does so ever gets elected.

He also suggested the whole council tax system ?needs to be changed?, in comments that have been seized upon by the Conservatives.

The Tories say Mr Jones, who is likely to be No 2 at the Treasury if Labour wins this week, has been ?caught saying the quiet part out loud? and that Sir Keir Starmer intends to increase taxes on people?s homes, cars and pensions.

Labour described it as ?scaremongering nonsense?.

From the Torygraph again, and I left the Labour response in for fairness. Does scaremongering nonsense mean we arent going to do it, lets see....

Which is why I switched Large U.K. Equity 6 weeks ago.

[isleaiw1]

s42blue, on 03 July 2024 - 07:17 PM, said:

Which is why I switched Large U.K. Equity 6 weeks ago.

I tend to have mine in overseas funds anyway - but no idea what my pension investment managers are doing - and that is a whole lot more money!

[s42blue]

 The Earl of Chesterfield, on 03 July 2024 - 06:00 PM, said:

This is actually quite tragic.

Friends who've spent years sniping anti Labour whataboutery or championing the most corrupt characters in politics now behaving like Mansfield fans sneering at Town smashing the division.

'Huh, no one really likes Starmer'.

'Meh, it'll all fall apart'.

'Ner, summat about unions...summat about taxes...summat about Friday evenings'.

Well truth is SKS inherited a party suffering it's worst defeat in a century. A party still populated by the cult of Corbyn. A party with too many members at best ignoring, or at worst peddling anti-Semitism.

He also faced a prime minister boasting an eighty seat majority slavishly backed by three quarters of the media. A plethora of platforms spewing out anti Labour bile on a minute-by-minute basis.

Yet in the space of just five years he's turned that 'round and is on the precipice of an historic victory.

Is he charismatic?

No.

Is he bold?

No.

Is he offering a raft of exciting policies?

No.

But he is ruthless. He has made Labour electable. He has spiked any gun the tories might point at him.

Leaving them lying about tax, lying about defence spending and lying about a months old quote where Darren Jones clearly says inheritance tax won't be changed.

Whilst their mates in the Mail-esque media print hysterically hypocritical red ink headlines warning of 'Starmergeddon', some 'super majority' or eight page instructions on how to vote tactically.

That scraping everyone can hear is the sound of clawed fingernails on the bottom of a sewage filled barrel.

Any Labour majority will be a huge acheivement. One in the dozens will be astonishing. And one despatching the likes of Rees-Mogg, Spencer, Jenrick, Gullis and Shapps to the political wilderness - as predicted in the last poll - will be pure, un-adulterated hilarity...

A huge achievement indeed to get them elected from the car crash they were. Fair play to him. I?m glad you see hes less than inspiring etc.

Change is what it?s all about. I just hope he doesnt wander too far from the centre.

Council tax revaluations etc will soon make him unpopular (plenty of middle and even low earners will be sat on some heavy pregnant housing gains).

The Tories are unelectable. Some I can stomach and worthy of a vote, not many. But then again I look at many Labour MPs and see again very few worthy of note. Rachel Reeves, Bridget Phillipson and Jess Philips being worthy of note. Wes Streeting ok, Ashworth poor. Can?t name many more except Raynor. Poor.

ABC.

Bold change, new future? Nah just a change and same old same old.

[Mr Mercury]

fishini, on 03 July 2024 - 07:15 PM, said:

Unlike Johnston who lied his way to power

Good evening my friend, oops my mistake.

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[isleaiw1]

 s42blue, on 03 July 2024 - 07:26 PM, said:

A huge achievement indeed to get them elected from the car crash they were. Fair play to him. I?m glad you see hes less than inspiring etc.

Change is what it?s all about. I just hope he doesnt wander too far from the centre.

Council tax revaluations etc will soon make him unpopular (plenty of middle and even low earners will be sat on some heavy pregnant housing gains).

The Tories are unelectable. Some I can stomach and worthy of a vote, not many. But then again I look at many Labour MPs and see again very few worthy of note. Rachel Reeves, Bridget Phillipson and Jess Philips being worthy of note. Wes Streeting ok, Ashworth poor. Can?t name many more except Raynor. Poor.

ABC.

Bold change, new future? Nah just a change and same old same old.

On the ABC front, another Torygraph article...

https://www.telegrap...actical-voters/

A third of the less than 40% they might get don't really want them, just don't want the Tories...

Amazing....

[Mr Mercury]

isleaiw1, on 03 July 2024 - 07:28 PM, said:

On the ABC front, another Torygraph article...

https://www.telegrap...actical-voters/

A third of the less than 40% they might get don't really want them, just don't want the Tories...

Amazing....

Don?t you realise that anything from that outlet is garbage?only the Mirror and Guardian carry any credence?.oh I nearly forgot, add the Sun to that list now!

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

 fishini, on 03 July 2024 - 07:15 PM, said:

Unlike Johnston who lied his way to power

For what it's worth caller after caller to LBC today condemned Boris the Liar's* 'performance' last night.

As they did the hero worship of the tories chanting his name.

In fact at least one was reduced to tears, so raw were the memories of Covid loss dredged up.

Then the sheer shamelessness of the all too predictably fact free gibberish he spewed left another former tory supporter declaring he'll vote Labour instead of sitting on hands as he'd planned.

It was, as always, just the Johnson circus coming to town. A show put on by a showman. The buffoon-esque demeanour, the playground standard gags, the fist pumping ego masturbation.

It was also a massive own goal given the reaction of a public knowing the price they paid for putting him in power...


*Statement of fact

[Mr Mercury]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 03 July 2024 - 07:42 PM, said:

For what it's worth caller after caller to LBC today condemned Boris the Liar's* 'performance' last night.

As they did the hero worship of the tories chanting his name.

In fact at least one was reduced to tears, so raw were the memories of Covid loss dredged up.

Then the sheer shamelessness of the all too predictably fact free gibberish he spewed left another former tory supporter declaring he'll vote Labour instead of sitting on hands as he'd planned.

It was, as always, just the Johnson circus coming to town. A show put on by a showman. The buffoon-esque demeanour, the playground standard gags, the fist pumping ego masturbation.

It was also a massive own goal given the reaction of a public knowing the price they paid for putting him in power...


*Statement of fact

*Statement of fact.
Now there’s a pebble I’m putting in my pocket.

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[Blue5]

joe, on 03 July 2024 - 02:46 PM, said:

Liz Truss is one reason why international markets lost faith in the UK. We need a stable centrist government and a big majority will help that. Together with a lot of Europe going ultra right wing - we will be the place to invest - e.g. money tree

If you've been in the market for any significant period of time and looked at the Country weightings and holdings of the top fund managers, you will realise that there has been a lack of confidence in the UK long before Truss and Kwarteng rocked up on the political scene.