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#101 Osborne again

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Posted 23 June 2024 - 05:04 PM

Mr Mercury, on 23 June 2024 - 04:46 PM, said:

I?m not sure if Klopp would be open to it after stating he wanted a year off but he obvious loves it where he is in the UK, loves the local and of course he wouldn?t be managing a club side. Match made in heaven if Klopp wants the less day to day hassle of management.

Yes mate,Klop would be brilliant, but the stuffed shirts at the FA will be more interested in someone who knows which spoon to use for their soup. I'm really trying hard to think of an English manager who'd fit. Howe maybe, Lampard nope, Gerrard another nope,Dyche he could do a job and now I need help or I'm back to Klop.

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Posted 23 June 2024 - 08:10 PM

Osborne again, on 23 June 2024 - 05:04 PM, said:

Klopp wouldn?t have a scoobie with a national side - at least he wooing have them daybto day though so they wouldn?t always be inured I guess?

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Posted 23 June 2024 - 08:48 PM

calvin plummers socks, on 23 June 2024 - 08:10 PM, said:

Klopp wouldn?t have a scoobie with a national side - at least he wooing have them daybto day though so they wouldn?t always be inured I guess?

Could you elaborate on why he wouldn't make a good National team manager, because I don't know the guy personally.

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Posted 23 June 2024 - 09:17 PM

Osborne again, on 23 June 2024 - 08:48 PM, said:

Could you elaborate on why he wouldn't make a good National team manager, because I don't know the guy personally.

I?d ask why you think he would?
Likeable guy at times but gets flustered under pressure. Massive budget but massively under achieved.
Sides only react after going behind at times. Injuries galore. Reliant on 2 world class players at their peak. Good with young home grown talent (as is GS of course).

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 06:01 AM

Not sure Klopp would make a good international manager, not sure Pep would either, their strengths are working with players over time.

International players shouldn?t need a lot of coaching particularly with limited time as a group. What we need is a manager who is good on tactics and can put a team together. Not a fan of his but someone in the Mourinho mode.

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 06:29 AM

calvin plummers socks, on 23 June 2024 - 09:17 PM, said:

Klop is perfect for a National team role but I think it'll be with either, his home country or someone like Belgium. He gets so much from his players, he gets what it means to be a fan because he's one himself. As for underachieving, I think he's done well to achieve what he has done, especially with the players he's lost, either from injuries or leaving the club.
He's great in interviews, in fact he'd make a brilliant inspirational speaker.
Massive budget doesn't come into consideration when your talking about the National team, but there's massive budgets and then there's Man City massive budgets.
I value your opinion on Klop and I've no doubt others will share that opinion, but for me he'd be a perfect replacement for Southgate, who, has done okay but doesn't inspire. I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 11:04 AM

calvin plummers socks, on 23 June 2024 - 09:17 PM, said:

Surely over achieved with the Liverpool budget compared to other teams.

Looking forward to you explaining why Southgate is actually a better manager than Klopp.

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 11:46 AM

calvin plummers socks, on 23 June 2024 - 09:17 PM, said:

Managerial honours...

Klopp-

Mainz 05

2. Bundesliga third-place promotion: 2003?04[318]

Borussia Dortmund

Bundesliga: 2010?11, 2011?12[319]
DFB-Pokal: 2011?12;[320] runner-up: 2013?14,[321] 2014?15[322]
DFL-Supercup: 2013,[323] 2014[324]
UEFA Champions League runner-up: 2012?13[325]

Liverpool

Premier League: 2019?20[326]
FA Cup: 2021?22[327]
Football League Cup/EFL Cup: 2021?22,[328] 2023?24;[329] runner-up: 2015?16[330]
FA Community Shield: 2022[331]
UEFA Champions League: 2018?19;[332] runner-up: 2017?18,[108] 2021?22[333]
UEFA Super Cup: 2019[139]
FIFA Club World Cup: 2019[151]
UEFA Europa League runner-up: 2015?16[334]

Individual

German Football Manager of the Year: 2011,[335] 2012,[335] 2019[336]
Deutscher Fernsehpreis: 2006, 2010[286][337]
Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 2019[338]
The Best FIFA Men's Coach: 2019,[339] 2020[340]
IFFHS World's Best Club Coach: 2019[341]
IFFHS Men's World Team: 2019[342]
World Soccer Awards World Manager of the Year: 2019[343]
Globe Soccer Awards Best Coach of the Year: 2019[344]
LMA Hall of Fame: 2019[250]
LMA Manager of the Year: 2019?20,[169] 2021?22[345]
Premier League Manager of the Season: 2019?20, 2021?22[326]
Premier League Manager of the Month: September 2016, December 2018, March 2019, August 2019, September 2019, November 2019, December 2019, January 2020, May 2021,[326] January 2024[346]
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Coach Award: 2020[347]
Freedom of the City of Liverpool: 2022[348]

Southgate - England U21

Toulon Tournament: 2016[165]

England

UEFA European Championship runner-up: 2020[166]
UEFA Nations League third place: 2018?19[167]

Individual

Premier League Manager of the Month: August 2008[168]
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Coach Award: 2018[169] and 2021[170]
FWA Tribute Award: 2019[171]

IT'S A TOUGH CALL! :sunglasses

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 12:05 PM

Snowflake McBedwetter, on 24 June 2024 - 11:46 AM, said:

IT'S A TOUGH CALL! :sunglasses

Yep, really tricky one to decide on.

This is why CPS is a good fisherman, he can make it sound like he believes the things he's writing.

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 12:15 PM

Snowflake McBedwetter, on 24 June 2024 - 11:46 AM, said:

So you're saying that Southgate has won all that? Here's me thinking he's only won the best dressed manager of the year award 😆😆😆.

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 01:59 PM

I guess international management is very different to club management, you don?t work with your players for sometimes months at a time, there?s a lot of sitting around watching games, doing ambassadorial duties. I can see it appealing to someone who?s maybe done 20 years of club management and fancies a change of pace. Not sure Klopp is quite at that stage yet, he strikes me as someone who likes the daily work on the training pitch.

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 04:29 PM

Goku, on 24 June 2024 - 12:05 PM, said:

Yep, really tricky one to decide on.

This is why CPS is a good fisherman, he can make it sound like he believes the things he's writing.

What?? You honestly think Klopp would be a better England manager than GS? Absolute nonsense.

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 05:14 PM

calvin plummers socks, on 24 June 2024 - 04:29 PM, said:

What?? You honestly think Klopp would be a better England manager than GS? Absolute nonsense.

You know when people have lost an argument when they start spouting opinion as fact, with no evidence, whatsoever, to support that "fact".
Evidence to support JK is posted above, now where's yours?

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 05:24 PM

born in 1866, on 24 June 2024 - 05:14 PM, said:

You know when people have lost an argument when they start spouting opinion as fact, with no evidence, whatsoever, to support that "fact".
Evidence to support JK is posted above, now where's yours?

I?ve not said anything is fact love- everything on a message board is speculation - that?s why there?s so much stupidity spoken on them.
No one has any idea whether Klopp would be better than GS- posting domestic honours doesn?t mean he would be - that?s just fool some of course.

I think even the most ardent Klopp fan would acknowledge that most of the coaching and tactical work was by Duvac ans Lijnders.
What Klopp did was introduce -positively- a great team ethic although alienating some at times and getting the scouse fans on board - they treated him like the messiah when in actual fact he was a very decent but not spectacular Prem manager.
Negatively he brought in ridiculous physical demands which caused a ridiculously high rate of injuries - he immediately brought in double and indeed treble training days and we all know what happens when that happens!

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 07:16 PM

Its only one game which granted was dire but not as if england got beat 5-0. If southgate went god knows who would replace him, whoever it was the jobs a poison challis and has ruined manier good manager

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 08:43 PM

calvin plummers socks, on 24 June 2024 - 04:29 PM, said:

What?? You honestly think Klopp would be a better England manager than GS? Absolute nonsense.

Hook line and sinker... smashing it outta the park again..

I'm thinking of getting some CPS fan club T shirts printed...

You are that good.

all we are saying, is give us ...a goal, or 2+

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Posted 24 June 2024 - 10:12 PM

calvin plummers socks, on 24 June 2024 - 05:24 PM, said:

he immediately brought in double and indeed treble training days and we all know what happens when that happens!

You win the Champions League?

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Posted 25 June 2024 - 03:42 AM

spireitetoo, on 24 June 2024 - 08:43 PM, said:

Hook line and sinker... smashing it outta the park again..

I'm thinking of getting some CPS fan club T shirts printed...

You are that good.

Yeah, and put all his nonsense on the back like band tour dates 😂😂😂.

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Posted 25 June 2024 - 04:40 AM

Osborne again, on 25 June 2024 - 03:42 AM, said:

Yeah, and put all his nonsense on the back like band tour dates 😂😂😂.

You haven?t said any reason why you think he would be a good fit for England.

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Posted 25 June 2024 - 05:53 AM

calvin plummers socks, on 25 June 2024 - 04:40 AM, said:

You haven?t said any reason why you think he would be a good fit for England.

You want to read again, and it wasn't me who said he'd be useless but you answered a question with a question and not an answer, and if you think your silly rant was an answer it wasn't, it sounded more like the gospel according to CPS. You can't stand anyone having an opposing view to yourself and you talk down to people as though you know everything about everything while others know nothing. I see you as a snob in a tracksuit who has no empathy. Go back to manipulating sore joints instead of trying to score silly points. I will not answer any more of your posts because I don't see it as a debate but a wind up by you. I don't know if Klop would make a good National manager but neither do you, but you make out you know everything.