[Mr Mercury]

The moment we face anyone half decent we?re gone!

[hilly81]

JonB, on 16 June 2024 - 08:18 PM, said:

Not sure he is, they just had a decent spell at start of second half. They couldn?t be as lacklustre as they were first half.

Perhaps. The worry is, they?re really not very good and we?re really struggling. It feels very much like the opening game v Tunisia in 2018.

[gordon_brittas]

Mr Mercury, on 16 June 2024 - 08:31 PM, said:

The moment we face anyone half decent we?re gone!

This is where I am at sadly. An underachieving side with a manager with ultra negative tactics.

[hilly81]

What a great save that is.

[JonB]

For all the fuss Pickfords not had a save to make despite us not being great. Foden been pants doing things he wouldn?t do normally. Just not kept the ball properly

[birdman]

Well, that's a massive win, against a nation with 1/8 th of our population.

[JonB]

birdman, on 16 June 2024 - 08:54 PM, said:

Well, that's a massive win, against a nation with 1/8 th of our population.

Italy have a population of 58m, Albania 2m and Italy just won?

[spireitetoo]

Spain won a tournament after losing their 1st game,
Portugal won a euro and hardly won a game.
The winners grind out results, and grow into a tournament.. we've a young talented but inexperienced squad.
Keep the faith.. we've got the win..

Just play with more width on the left please 🤣

This post has been edited by spireitetoo: 16 June 2024 - 08:58 PM

[Osborne again]

We'll all take that, but we've got to be much better than we have been in the second half. Southgate's tactics make John Duncan's look really positive.

[Blue roan lily]

JonB, on 16 June 2024 - 08:41 PM, said:

For all the fuss Pickfords not had a save to make despite us not being great. Foden been pants doing things he wouldn?t do normally. Just not kept the ball properly

Correct, I thought Foden was absolutely rammel..

[Mr Mercury]

Typical Southgate performance, and I don?t mean that in a good way!

[Wooden Spoon]

Serbia made a change in how they play - and up their game and threaten. Second half - play like that against better sides it won?t be a 1-0



Southgate does nothing to change it tactically



As with Croatia and Italy.


Ok we won and that?s a plus and we?re in pole position in the group but Southgate?s limitations are still the same ones and are still there

[Bonnyman]

Mr Mercury, on 16 June 2024 - 08:58 PM, said:

Typical Southgate performance, and I don?t mean that in a good way!

We always struggle first game difference is we won so onwards and upwards

Positives
Bellingham looked class for good periods
No goals conceded by a new centre half partnership
Declan rice superb and best holding midfielder in the world for me , certainly be in every fans top 5

Negatives
Trent not convincing
Trippier isn?t a left back , what?s point going beyond fodden with no left foot
Kane ( think he is a great player) but looked leaden legged tonight
Foden had a honkin game

[Wooden Spoon]

gordon_brittas, on 16 June 2024 - 08:35 PM, said:

This is where I am at sadly. An underachieving side with a manager with ultra negative tactics.

And little to no idea how to change it


Southgate is England?s wheel clamp

[Goku]

Bonnyman, on 16 June 2024 - 09:14 PM, said:

We always struggle first game difference is we won so onwards and upwards

Positives
Bellingham looked class for good periods
No goals conceded by a new centre half partnership
Declan rice superb and best holding midfielder in the world for me , certainly be in every fans top 5

Negatives
Trent not convincing
Trippier isn?t a left back , what?s point going beyond fodden with no left foot
Kane ( think he is a great player) but looked leaden legged tonight
Foden had a honkin game

Agree, would add Guehi having a really good individually game too.

[hilly81]

Bonnyman, on 16 June 2024 - 09:14 PM, said:

We always struggle first game difference is we won so onwards and upwards

Positives
Bellingham looked class for good periods
No goals conceded by a new centre half partnership
Declan rice superb and best holding midfielder in the world for me , certainly be in every fans top 5

Negatives
Trent not convincing
Trippier isn?t a left back , what?s point going beyond fodden with no left foot
Kane ( think he is a great player) but looked leaden legged tonight
Foden had a honkin game

Can?t argue with any of that. I thought Pickford played well as well.

I think Trent is worth another start in there and I would persist with Foden but he?s got to do better.

[Mr Mercury]

hilly81, on 16 June 2024 - 09:38 PM, said:

Can?t argue with any of that. I thought Pickford played well as well.

I think Trent is worth another start in there and I would persist with Foden but he?s got to do better.

Palmer has to start

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 16 June 2024 - 09:42 PM

[jack bauer]

hmmm, first game, win, that's the best bit, not convincing but job done and should qualify such is the ease of this tournaments format. can england win this? hmmmm...

[howardb]

Osborne again, on 16 June 2024 - 08:57 PM, said:

We'll all take that, but we've got to be much better than we have been in the second half. Southgate's tactics make John Duncan's look really positive.

Ha Ha - good assessment

Southgate could turn Real Madrid into Rochdale............an incredible achievement to waste such a talented squad

[turrhall]

Wasn't a sexy performance, but restricted Serbia to no real chances. Wins a win