[dart in the crossbar]

Given that football is a low scoring game I wouldn't be surprised if England after Southgate make use of AI or something akin to AI to plan tactics.

Brentford did/do well with their type of 'moneyball' analytics. (Signing players based on hard stats above all else). I'd have thought that a moneyball type analysis of player strengths and weaknesses combined with analysis of what happens before teams score would serve England well.

I obviously don't have the analytics as to what leads to in-play goals, but I'd reckon that most in-play goals are scored / conceded from the following:

1) A through ball from within lines of both penno areas that passes the CMs and CHs with the attacker out-pacing the turning CHS;
2) A cut-back cross from between the lines of the goal-line touchline and the keepers area that reaches the penno area between the keepers area and the penno box line;
3) A player running with the ball quickly from the lines of the outsides of the centre circle and the outside lines of the penno box and passing the ball to a team-mate who runs into the box.

Whilst this might be wrong and these three scenarios may not make up most of the pre-goal happenings, it's an analysis worth doing IMHO.

AI would do it in seconds, I'd have thought. Like Moneyball it ought to be worth doing. And the question then being asked of how to maximise these going forward and mitigate against them defending. And which players are particularly good at executing these tactics and defending against them.

As one small example, Leicester City and Jamie Vardy made a living on '1'

[Goku]

dart in the crossbar, on 02 July 2024 - 11:35 AM, said:

Given that football is a low scoring game I wouldn't be surprised if England after Southgate make use of AI or something akin to AI to plan tactics.

Brentford did/do well with their type of 'moneyball' analytics. (Signing players based on hard stats above all else). I'd have thought that a moneyball type analysis of player strengths and weaknesses combined with analysis of what happens before teams score would serve England well.

I obviously don't have the analytics as to what leads to in-play goals, but I'd reckon that most in-play goals are scored / conceded from the following:

1) A through ball from within lines of both penno areas that passes the CMs and CHs with the attacker out-pacing the turning CHS;
2) A cut-back cross from between the lines of the goal-line touchline and the keepers area that reaches the penno area between the keepers area and the penno box line;
3) A player running with the ball quickly from the lines of the outsides of the centre circle and the outside lines of the penno box and passing the ball to a team-mate who runs into the box.

Whilst this might be wrong and these three scenarios may not make up most of the pre-goal happenings, it's an analysis worth doing IMHO.

AI would do it in seconds, I'd have thought. Like Moneyball it ought to be worth doing. And the question then being asked of how to maximise these going forward and mitigate against them defending. And which players are particularly good at executing these tactics and defending against them.

As one small example, Leicester City and Jamie Vardy made a living on '1'

1) deffo ain't happening in this tournament. Everybody is sat deep defending, there's no space. Actually quite annoying but you can understand it given the magnitude of the matches.

[Osborne again]

Gareth Southgate seems a thoroughly decent bloke, who has created a unity in the dressing room, but there's more to being a manager than that. Since, and including the Iceland game he's become so negative that it looks like he's playing 6-3-1. There's nothing wrong with playing defensively so long as you can hit teams on the break, but breaking in slow motion is hardly going to bother a decent team.
I want us to win it, and I want Southgate to be the first manager since 1966 to win a major competition. The next game needs to be played like we mean it because it'll not be an easy game to win.
Hopefully, we'll wake up the next match.

[spireitetoo]

 calvin plummers socks, on 02 July 2024 - 09:16 AM, said:

Cool - I?ll stick with the notion that the most qualified man in English football currently is doing his job rather than random geezers who watch a Sky game a month

Just cos someone has a qualification to do a job it doesn't mean they're good at it..
You should know that, how many physio's/ trainers are out doing similar work to you, but doing it badly?

This post has been edited by spireitetoo: Today, 12:03 PM

[calvin plummers socks]

 Tylerdurdencfc, on 02 July 2024 - 10:45 AM, said:

England progressed due to the brilliance of one world class moment. Not because of Southgate.

His tactical awareness is shocking, his team selection has been appalling and his decision making diabolical.

The team look leggy, unfit, there is a lack of press, a lack of movement when our defence has the ball and no width or getting behind the oppositions defences.

Now I could understand this as a one-off, but this is 5 games in a row now, one prior to the Euros, and 4 at them. He has done nothing to change this, it clearly isn't working and needs to be addressed before the next game as Switzerland looked superb in their last game. If the both teams play as they did in their previous game then Switzerland are heavy favourites and will fancy their chances to spank us.

If he plays the same formation again with the same starting 11, expect the same dull boring game and defensively minded tactics, lack of urgency and few substitutions.

His record against the world's top 10 teams is abysmal. I will post it below.

If they are leggy and unfit it?s not Southgate?s fault - that?s the club system

[dart in the crossbar]

Goku, on 02 July 2024 - 11:40 AM, said:

1) deffo ain't happening in this tournament. Everybody is sat deep defending, there's no space. Actually quite annoying but you can understand it given the magnitude of the matches.

I'd agree that there's been less space behind the back line than usual in the tournament so far. I reckon that there have been moments in games when team could have utilised '1', including England.

[Mr Mercury]

 Tylerdurdencfc, on 02 July 2024 - 10:49 AM, said:

Southgate v top 10 ranked teams

He has won 6 games out of 28.

Here endeth the lesson!

[calvin plummers socks]

 Mr Mercury, on 02 July 2024 - 04:52 PM, said:

Here endeth the lesson!

The irony - you jizz over Farage who has never won anything he?s ever entered

[Johnnyspireite7]

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calvin plummers socks, on 02 July 2024 - 04:53 PM, said:

The irony - you jizz over Farage who has never won anything he?s ever entered

Not true, he got elected to something he didn't want to be in, The European Parliament.

[CFC91]

 calvin plummers socks, on 02 July 2024 - 04:53 PM, said:

The irony - you jizz over Farage who has never won anything he?s ever entered

Go squabble about him on the politics forum