[dart in the crossbar]

Given that football is a low scoring game I wouldn't be surprised if England after Southgate make use of AI or something akin to AI to plan tactics.

Brentford did/do well with their type of 'moneyball' analytics. (Signing players based on hard stats above all else). I'd have thought that a moneyball type analysis of player strengths and weaknesses combined with analysis of what happens before teams score would serve England well.

I obviously don't have the analytics as to what leads to in-play goals, but I'd reckon that most in-play goals are scored / conceded from the following:

1) A through ball from within lines of both penno areas that passes the CMs and CHs with the attacker out-pacing the turning CHS;
2) A cut-back cross from between the lines of the goal-line touchline and the keepers area that reaches the penno area between the keepers area and the penno box line;
3) A player running with the ball quickly from the lines of the outsides of the centre circle and the outside lines of the penno box and passing the ball to a team-mate who runs into the box.

Whilst this might be wrong and these three scenarios may not make up most of the pre-goal happenings, it's an analysis worth doing IMHO.

AI would do it in seconds, I'd have thought. Like Moneyball it ought to be worth doing. And the question then being asked of how to maximise these going forward and mitigate against them defending. And which players are particularly good at executing these tactics and defending against them.

As one small example, Leicester City and Jamie Vardy made a living on '1'

[Goku]

dart in the crossbar, on 02 July 2024 - 11:35 AM, said:

Given that football is a low scoring game I wouldn't be surprised if England after Southgate make use of AI or something akin to AI to plan tactics.

Brentford did/do well with their type of 'moneyball' analytics. (Signing players based on hard stats above all else). I'd have thought that a moneyball type analysis of player strengths and weaknesses combined with analysis of what happens before teams score would serve England well.

I obviously don't have the analytics as to what leads to in-play goals, but I'd reckon that most in-play goals are scored / conceded from the following:

1) A through ball from within lines of both penno areas that passes the CMs and CHs with the attacker out-pacing the turning CHS;
2) A cut-back cross from between the lines of the goal-line touchline and the keepers area that reaches the penno area between the keepers area and the penno box line;
3) A player running with the ball quickly from the lines of the outsides of the centre circle and the outside lines of the penno box and passing the ball to a team-mate who runs into the box.

Whilst this might be wrong and these three scenarios may not make up most of the pre-goal happenings, it's an analysis worth doing IMHO.

AI would do it in seconds, I'd have thought. Like Moneyball it ought to be worth doing. And the question then being asked of how to maximise these going forward and mitigate against them defending. And which players are particularly good at executing these tactics and defending against them.

As one small example, Leicester City and Jamie Vardy made a living on '1'

1) deffo ain't happening in this tournament. Everybody is sat deep defending, there's no space. Actually quite annoying but you can understand it given the magnitude of the matches.

[Osborne again]

Gareth Southgate seems a thoroughly decent bloke, who has created a unity in the dressing room, but there's more to being a manager than that. Since, and including the Iceland game he's become so negative that it looks like he's playing 6-3-1. There's nothing wrong with playing defensively so long as you can hit teams on the break, but breaking in slow motion is hardly going to bother a decent team.
I want us to win it, and I want Southgate to be the first manager since 1966 to win a major competition. The next game needs to be played like we mean it because it'll not be an easy game to win.
Hopefully, we'll wake up the next match.

[spireitetoo]

 calvin plummers socks, on 02 July 2024 - 09:16 AM, said:

Cool - I?ll stick with the notion that the most qualified man in English football currently is doing his job rather than random geezers who watch a Sky game a month

Just cos someone has a qualification to do a job it doesn't mean they're good at it..
You should know that, how many physio's/ trainers are out doing similar work to you, but doing it badly?

This post has been edited by spireitetoo: Today, 12:03 PM