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Posted 29 June 2024 - 09:09 AM

But today Mr Parker, a divorced father of one, from Bishop Stortford, Herts, who is a part time actor, refused when asked three times if he had been paid to infiltrate Reform UK to make their volunteers appear racist.

Speaking exclusively to MailOnline, Mr Parker said he'd been set up by Channel - but added: 'I'm not going to say anything, I think the best thing I can do is not say anything at all.
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 09:12 AM

View PostGoku, on 29 June 2024 - 08:35 AM, said:

The only other possible option I can see would be that a supporter of his could not know the full extent of the c*nt of a man that he is. So I suppose there?s 3 potential options.

To be clear, I?m not saying every Reform voter falls under one of those options. Just supporters of Farage himself. Obviously tonnes of Reform voters will be racist, though. That?s just using common sense.

Thanks for the clarification. Yes I?m sure many people with those views will be attracted to Reform, like wise many who are equally intolerant of other peoples will be attracted to Labour.
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 09:21 AM

Labour candidate in Clacton, Jovan Owusu-Nepaul's racist I like to drink the tears of white people comment?

He?s not an actor btw
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 09:28 AM

 Mr Mercury, on 29 June 2024 - 09:12 AM, said:

Thanks for the clarification. Yes I?m sure many people with those views will be attracted to Reform, like wise many who are equally intolerant of other peoples will be attracted to Labour.


Yep there?ll definitely be some, but the numbers will be miles off the right wing parties. If you?re anti-black people, anti-brown people, anti-gay people, you don?t typically vote Labour. Anti-Jewish? Previously yes, probably not now Starmer has done his whole purging antisemitism thing but yes there?ll deffo be antisemites here and there still voting Labour. If you?re a Muslim who hates Jewish people based off what Israel has done to Palestine (ridiculous, obviously) then you no longer vote Labour as they were very slow to speak out against Israel and to call for a ceasefire, so that demographic is flocking to the greens and independents, according to the polls. Plenty of Muslim independents currently receiving a surge of support campaigning solely on Israel/Palestine (again, ridiculous, but hey, that?s democracy as you so often say!)

So they?re fairly incomparable, I?d say.
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 01:01 PM

https://www.thelondo...l-boats-377788/

Another one. Should?ve stuck to dog whistling like our Nige does.

All parties are the same tho. Just a coincidence that these wannabe fascists all seem to be congregating in the same party 🤐wonder how many more are gonna crawl out the woodwork

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Posted 29 June 2024 - 01:39 PM

 Goku, on 29 June 2024 - 01:01 PM, said:

https://www.thelondo...l-boats-377788/

Another one. Should?ve stuck to dog whistling like our Nige does.

All parties are the same tho. Just a coincidence that these wannabe fascists all seem to be congregating in the same party 🤐wonder how many more are gonna crawl out the woodwork


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Posted 29 June 2024 - 01:57 PM

 Goku, on 29 June 2024 - 01:01 PM, said:

https://www.thelondo...l-boats-377788/

Another one. Should?ve stuck to dog whistling like our Nige does.

All parties are the same tho. Just a coincidence that these wannabe fascists all seem to be congregating in the same party 🤐wonder how many more are gonna crawl out the woodwork


Nope, it's another establishment set up.

He's an actor.

Just like all the bigots and ghouls and Nazi sympathisers attaching themselves to whichever mildly right of centre party poor ol' Nige calls home.

Including Lee 'thirty pee' Anderson.

In fact all Farage's pro Putin posturing was fake news, too. So was his Trump sycophancy. All that stuff about Jan sixth terrorists being merely a "ramshackle group" was AI generated.

Meanwhile every Reform supporter is a salt 'o the earth kinda character who knows exactly what they're voting for: https://hopenothate....age-and-reform/

Yeah, they're the real victims, here...

PS: another actor... https://uk.news.yaho...tJHRfAzgH7X8fCQ

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Posted 29 June 2024 - 02:10 PM

Meanwhile speaking of the leader of the ENGLISH Defence League... https://www.thelondo...citizen-377842/
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 03:24 PM

Good article by Boris Johnson in todays Mail, could well have helped me decide.
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 04:24 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 29 June 2024 - 03:24 PM, said:

Good article by Boris Johnson in todays Mail, could well have helped me decide.


Wrote it in crayon did he?
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 04:29 PM

View PostJohnnyspireite7, on 29 June 2024 - 04:24 PM, said:

Wrote it in crayon did he?

How would I know? It?s on my digital subscription so appears online. What a silly thing to ask!
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 04:59 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 29 June 2024 - 03:24 PM, said:

Good article by Boris Johnson in todays Mail, could well have helped me decide.

From a proven liar and lawbreaker. What does it say about you?
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 05:12 PM

View Postfishini, on 29 June 2024 - 04:59 PM, said:

From a proven liar and lawbreaker. What does it say about you?

Why would that effect the article he?s written?
Why are the hard left on here so anti anyone who voices against Labour or wouldn’t vote for them.
I get it unless you vote Labour the most vociferous posters on here think you’re deranged, thick, etc etc or if you vote Reform somewhere between dog and cat dirt. Thankfully I don’t gone a f.ck about their view, or yours, with the greatest of respect, of the way I may vote.
Just for clarification I don’t judge any one personally from where they place their X, I respect their choice and wouldn’t view them any differently but from what I see on here that’s not the case with many other posters.

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Posted 29 June 2024 - 05:25 PM

A narcissistic buffoon kicked out of office because his own party got sick of lying on his behalf, handed the longest ever Parliamentary suspension for lying to the House, who ran as fast as his chubby little legs could carry him rather than account to his constituents and in large part the architect of the Tories' imminent extinction, writing in a paper that's become a parody of itself for deranged anti Labour propaganda.

GeeBeebies is a better barometer of who to vote for by comparison...

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Posted 29 June 2024 - 05:27 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 29 June 2024 - 05:25 PM, said:

A narcissistic buffoon kicked out of office because his own party got sick of lying on his behalf, handed the longest ever Parliamentary suspension for lying to the House, who ran as fast as his chubby little legs could carry him rather than account to his constituents and in large part the architect of the Tories' imminent extinction writing in a paper that's become a parody of itself for deranged anti Labour propaganda.

GeeBeebies is a better barometer of who to vote for by comparison...

Like I said I thought it was a good article. Have you read it?
I can copy and paste if you?d like.
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 07:16 PM

 Mr Mercury, on 29 June 2024 - 05:27 PM, said:

Like I said I thought it was a good article. Have you read it?
I can copy and paste if you?d like.


It can't be good, it's not pro labour. Any arguments that are not pro labour are wrong... even if all the facts included are accurate....

Labour's support lowest since Sunak elected according to a poll today... but still a massive majority as people are moving to fringe parties.

S42blue should copyright that phrase, it really is an ABC election... and that will spell real problems for Starmer a few years in as no one will be happy...

Lib Dems with nearly as many seats as Tories so let's say it again, it's never a wasted vote to vote for the one whose manifesto you think is best (assuming you are one if those who reads manifestos and doesn't just vote red cos that's what people like you do...)
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 07:31 PM

View Postisleaiw1, on 29 June 2024 - 07:16 PM, said:

It can't be good, it's not pro labour. Any arguments that are not pro labour are wrong... even if all the facts included are accurate....

Labour's support lowest since Sunak elected according to a poll today... but still a massive majority as people are moving to fringe parties.

S42blue should copyright that phrase, it really is an ABC election... and that will spell real problems for Starmer a few years in as no one will be happy...

Lib Dems with nearly as many seats as Tories so let's say it again, it's never a wasted vote to vote for the one whose manifesto you think is best (assuming you are one if those who reads manifestos and doesn't just vote red cos that's what people like you do...)

The great paradox, the largest majority in modern times will elect the least popular incoming government of modern times. The fall out is going to be a popcorn moment.
I’m also perplexed how at the last election voters were lead by Mailesque media, yet this time they arnt?

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Posted 29 June 2024 - 07:44 PM

View PostGoku, on 29 June 2024 - 09:28 AM, said:

Yep there?ll definitely be some, but the numbers will be miles off the right wing parties. If you?re anti-black people, anti-brown people, anti-gay people, you don?t typically vote Labour. Anti-Jewish? Previously yes, probably not now Starmer has done his whole purging antisemitism thing but yes there?ll deffo be antisemites here and there still voting Labour. If you?re a Muslim who hates Jewish people based off what Israel has done to Palestine (ridiculous, obviously) then you no longer vote Labour as they were very slow to speak out against Israel and to call for a ceasefire, so that demographic is flocking to the greens and independents, according to the polls. Plenty of Muslim independents currently receiving a surge of support campaigning solely on Israel/Palestine (again, ridiculous, but hey, that?s democracy as you so often say!)

So they?re fairly incomparable, I?d say.

Hey of course it is, as long as democracy goes the way of the hard left, if not it?s people duped, lied to, misled by the Mailesque media.
But this time the voters know best. And of course on here we have to admit who we voted for and give detailed reason as to why we made that decision, as dictated by the Lord of the Board..oops sorry the EofC…my bad.

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Posted 29 June 2024 - 08:03 PM

View PostGoku, on 29 June 2024 - 09:28 AM, said:

Yep there?ll definitely be some, but the numbers will be miles off the right wing parties. If you?re anti-black people, anti-brown people, anti-gay people, you don?t typically vote Labour. Anti-Jewish? Previously yes, probably not now Starmer has done his whole purging antisemitism thing but yes there?ll deffo be antisemites here and there still voting Labour. If you?re a Muslim who hates Jewish people based off what Israel has done to Palestine (ridiculous, obviously) then you no longer vote Labour as they were very slow to speak out against Israel and to call for a ceasefire, so that demographic is flocking to the greens and independents, according to the polls. Plenty of Muslim independents currently receiving a surge of support campaigning solely on Israel/Palestine (again, ridiculous, but hey, that?s democracy as you so often say!)

So they?re fairly incomparable, I?d say.


you dont think lots of older labour voters (you know, the ones who voted Brexit) arent a bit racist? And some of the newer asian labour supporters arent a bit racist? and some of the eastern europeans settled over here and able to vote and who are voting Labour arent a bit racist?

I'd say with no real facts to base it on that you can be racist whichever side of the political divide you are on, and its more to do with personal outlook than politics...

And yes my father in law did refer to the old hotel in Carr Vale by that very racist term and I had to stop him for the good of my kids....
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Posted 29 June 2024 - 08:19 PM

View Postisleaiw1, on 29 June 2024 - 08:03 PM, said:

you dont think lots of older labour voters (you know, the ones who voted Brexit) arent a bit racist? And some of the newer asian labour supporters arent a bit racist? and some of the eastern europeans settled over here and able to vote and who are voting Labour arent a bit racist?

I'd say with no real facts to base it on that you can be racist whichever side of the political divide you are on, and its more to do with personal outlook than politics...

And yes my father in law did refer to the old hotel in Carr Vale by that very racist term and I had to stop him for the good of my kids....

Good point re the older Labour voters, I know a few dyed in the wool Labour voters who make it quite clear that immigration and stopping the boats is a major problem, a view that Goku and others of the hard left would find extremely bigoted. In fact I?m sure if they went round the former, probably soon to be returned, red wall seats and listened to Labour voters in the Brexit supporting areas they?d view them as nothing more than bigots, but then again they just be parroting the view of Gordon Brown, and of course they?ll ignore the fact because they don?t want to admit the hard left is a major player in bigoted views. But like I say.. there?s no bigger bigot than a left wing bigot.
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