[Town_Fan]

Whilst I'm all for this idea of playing the full 90 minutes, it surely cannot continue against the non league back drop of 3 subs from a pool of 5. It again shows the lack of joined up thinking by the National League.

Players are going to get hurt because of this rule.

[Siberian Spireite]

 Town_Fan, on 06 August 2023 - 08:29 PM, said:

Whilst I'm all for this idea of playing the full 90 minutes, it surely cannot continue against the non league back drop of 3 subs from a pool of 5. It again shows the lack of joined up thinking by the National League.

Players are going to get hurt because of this rule.

It might stop players pretending to be hurt. I’m all for it, though if more subs are needed to ensure the paying public are not defrauded by time wasters, then fair enough.

[Town_Fan]

 Siberian Spireite, on 06 August 2023 - 08:35 PM, said:

It might stop players pretending to be hurt. I’m all for it, though if more subs are needed to ensure the paying public are not defrauded by time wasters, then fair enough.

Completely agree, but it has to go hand in hand with extra subs and more spaces on the bench.

[Rogerwillis]

Time wasting,surrounding the ref and signalling for a player to booked have no place in football it’s disgusting

[Valley Blues]

 Town_Fan, on 06 August 2023 - 08:29 PM, said:

Whilst I'm all for this idea of playing the full 90 minutes, it surely cannot continue against the non league back drop of 3 subs from a pool of 5. It again shows the lack of joined up thinking by the National League.

Players are going to get hurt because of this rule.

Are you missing the point?

The players aren’t being asked to play an extra 15 minutes or so on top of the 90. They’re being asked to play the full 90.

The added time is to account for the time the players are standing about having a drink whilst the trainer is on. Again.

[60s 70s Spireite]

 Valley Blues, on 06 August 2023 - 10:31 PM, said:

Are you missing the point?

The players aren’t being asked to play an extra 15 minutes or so on top of the 90. They’re being asked to play the full 90.

The added time is to account for the time the players are standing about having a drink whilst the trainer is on. Again.

Whatever, players are being asked to play longer than they ever have in recent times. And managers will have to rethink their use of substitutes, whereas an 89 minute substitute would have previously been brought on to shore the defence for the last 5 or six minutes, it could now be fifteen. To be hoped the team analysts will be trying to monitor the expected added time so the manager can make suitable changes. In future said player will only need to come on perhaps in the 100th minute.

Of course the FA/IFAB could always interact with the fans and allow an official clock seen by all that stops when the fourth official deems it’s needs to.

[Waller is my hero]

 Town_Fan, on 06 August 2023 - 08:29 PM, said:

Whilst I'm all for this idea of playing the full 90 minutes, it surely cannot continue against the non league back drop of 3 subs from a pool of 5. It again shows the lack of joined up thinking by the National League.

Players are going to get hurt because of this rule.

Well it benefited us on Saturday….they were going down like flies, only adding to the time….when else in normal matches would you have scored in 90+10 minutes to win it??

Only stupid footballers will realise feigning injury to stop play will have a detrimental effect

[WEareSAILING]

Benefitted us Saturday. I like it, will stop teams doing what they did all last season. Come to our place, time waste, drop on the floor for a minute and frustrate us. This new rule will benefit us this season as your going to be looking at roughly 10 minutes across both halves extra time..

[Mr Mercury]

 WEareSAILING, on 07 August 2023 - 07:23 AM, said:

Benefitted us Saturday. I like it, will stop teams doing what they did all last season. Come to our place, time waste, drop on the floor for a minute and frustrate us. This new rule will benefit us this season as your going to be looking at roughly 10 minutes across both halves extra time..

It eventually benefitted us, initially, when with a one goal lead the 13 was added it benefitted them.

[Norton Blue]

 60s 70s Spireite, on 07 August 2023 - 06:51 AM, said:

Whatever, players are being asked to play longer than they ever have in recent times. And managers will have to rethink their use of substitutes, whereas an 89 minute substitute would have previously been brought on to shore the defence for the last 5 or six minutes, it could now be fifteen. To be hoped the team analysts will be trying to monitor the expected added time so the manager can make suitable changes. In future said player will only need to come on perhaps in the 100th minute.

Of course the FA/IFAB could always interact with the fans and allow an official clock seen by all that stops when the fourth official deems it’s needs to.

No, players have always been asked to play for 90 mins. Due to a growing trend of time wasting and play acting that time has fallen. The changes in the rules are simply to address that so that players get back up to the 90.

[spireitetoo]

Rumour has it, the Borehamwood game, has only just finished.. 🤣

I'm all for it, look at the last men's world cup, they soon learnt not to waste time staying down injured.. the same will happen in all league games ..

[sewey89]

 Valley Blues, on 06 August 2023 - 10:31 PM, said:

Are you missing the point?

The players aren’t being asked to play an extra 15 minutes or so on top of the 90. They’re being asked to play the full 90.

The added time is to account for the time the players are standing about having a drink whilst the trainer is on. Again.

You are correct, but it's also correct that they're being asked to play more time than they're used to.

Currently, the ball is in play for about 50-70 minutes of a game, which is mental. So yes, the players are being asked to play more minutes.

I'm all for it, by the way, if you want to waste time, be clever and do it in the corner whilst the ball is in play.

I do agree that the benches should be extended though, it's ridiculous that we can still only name 5 subs.

[Goku]

Think the general consensus is that this is a good idea but not when there's only 5 subs allowed to be named with 3 used.

[JonB]

Does anyone know how much of the 13 we actually played? In the EFL etc they are leaving the stadium clocks running past 45/90mins to show the injury time running through but we stopped ours at 90mins on Saturday.

There was their goal after which they were taking plenty of time over things during the 13mins added time. At one point their keeper caught one, took about 30 seconds to stand up after falling over with the ball then proceeded to do a tour of his area before finally getting rid of the ball.

[Half Full]

I like the idea that scoreboards can show added time. Does it apply to our league?

[Wooden Spoon]

 Siberian Spireite, on 06 August 2023 - 08:35 PM, said:

It might stop players pretending to be hurt. I’m all for it, though if more subs are needed to ensure the paying public are not defrauded by time wasters, then fair enough.

The likes of Solihull, BW and Eastleigh won’t stop doing it - as much as it’s wasting time it’s also about disruption of the game and stopping opponents getting any momentum flow or rhythm going

[JonB]

 Half Full, on 07 August 2023 - 09:08 AM, said:

I like the idea that scoreboards can show added time. Does it apply to our league?

Apparently not as it didnt happen at our game. Wouldnt be surprising for the National League not to do what the EFL\Prem are doing as we've seen with number of subs etc.

[Half Full]

 JonB, on 07 August 2023 - 09:19 AM, said:

Apparently not as it didnt happen at our game. Wouldnt be surprising for the National League not to do what the EFL\Prem are doing as we've seen with number of subs etc.

Possibly because not all clubs have suitable scoreboards?

[rodney]

 JonB, on 07 August 2023 - 08:52 AM, said:

Does anyone know how much of the 13 we actually played? In the EFL etc they are leaving the stadium clocks running past 45/90mins to show the injury time running through but we stopped ours at 90mins on Saturday.

There was their goal after which they were taking plenty of time over things during the 13mins added time. At one point their keeper caught one, took about 30 seconds to stand up after falling over with the ball then proceeded to do a tour of his area before finally getting rid of the ball.

We played 14 1/2 minutes extra in the second half